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Didn't work on the wheel. Oh well. :)
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What were the exact problems ?
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If you can't get it working, do you mind sharing so we can see what got you so excited?
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I'm going to share it with Fletcher since he's far more knowledgeable at wm2d than I am. He's agreed to help. :)
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Silvertiger wrote:Didn't work on the wheel. Oh well. :)
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It didn't work for me either with my configurations. I was and still hoping you have better luck. Fletcher is very good with WM2D so he is a good choice.
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As it stands it will probably never work on a wheel due to vector restrictions along the vertical axis that are inherent to the operation itself. The problem I'm having right now is designing some sort of catch and release latching system for the reset, which I haven't been able to do yet as latches are very weird in wm2d. It's like trying to balance a baseball bat on your finger tip while allowing it to rotate at the same time. Tricky stuff.
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If it can't work on a wheel, then I suspect it does in fact have the problem where it cannot be flipped, or inverted.
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I finally, just now, successfully got it to shift itself. This limits its mobility but still puts the 4 pounds above the fulcrum when flipped. Don't know about a wheel though. :(
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You dont need a wheel. Any reciprocating motion will do. But if you can flip it, you should be able to mount it on a wheel.
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It'll probably end up being more trouble than it's worth. I still have to get it to shift BOTH ways; and it's vertical axis restrictions are a hindrance to that.
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Can it do work?

Can it then be reset without excess energy input?
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The good news is you went to Fletcher. In this field, I would value his opinion far above any physicist.
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Just include illustration for the hydrogen & water pulley concept from previous post here http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 363#150363
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That's buoyancy even though it's hydrogen. It's still treated like a fluid in hydrodynamics. I already have a buoyancy SIMULATION that works. Its my backup to my alternating impulse engine in my Design Status Update thread. Height for width is a separate thing from both lol.
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That's buoyancy even though it's hydrogen.
Then called it Buoyancy & Gravity (as water fall down) concept... it does sound cooler this way :)


Btw notice that there's a characteristic (or pattern) in this buoyancy-gravity concept

- At the beginning when increasing the height of the pulley, the output gained is insignificant, way below the input.
- But with each increase of height, the output also increases.
- Eventually, with more height increase, the output will be on par with the input.
- And continue onwards, adding more height, the output will start to be greater than the input.

And this pattern share similarity in one of Bessler's Clue
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