Weights in Motion...self Perpetuating?

[Gill Simo]

Here is an example of Weight in Motion...given free reign to express itself...at/about a Fixed Point in the gravitational field.

This is weight in motion, not mass...in order to achieve weight then of course, mass must be fixed in the gravitational field...not falling
However...given free reign means that the weight cannot in any way be connected to the fixed point, it cannot be held there...in effect the weight must be floating at a fixed point, with nothing preventing it from falling, in order for the weight to have free reign.

The following, ultra simple, arrangement achieves this `trick`.
As ever I must point out that gravity is playing no part in driving/perpetuating this arrangement...it is only giving it weight & confirming that it is balanced across the centre point at all times throughout its cycle.

I propose that possibly it is the weights themselves, in this, their motion, that somehow meet the conditions required to self perpetuate.

PARTS (Fig 1)

ASSEMBLY (Fig 2)

Take an axle...place it through an orange x-member....then through a spoke. Repeat for the second axle.
Clamp each axle in a stand & draw close together, aligned as if one continual axle.
Set the two facing x-members diagonally and connect their ends to the two side struts (these must sit centrally between the two x-members)
Fit a side strut pin into the small slot of both of the spokes.
(Note: As both side struts sit between both x-members then the side struts need to be formed as per the side on view in Fig 1...thus allowing for free access to the side strut centre points without hindering the motion of the x-members)

MOTION As previously pointed out, this arrangement in motion causes the centre point of each side strut to toggle back and forth in a straight line horizontally. towards & away from each other. The pins are the centre point of each side strut & their toggling is accommodated for by the small slots they run in, in the two spokes.
As also previously pointed out, the cross over point of the two x-members also toggles back and forth, this time vertically...through the axle.
As both x-members are fixed to cross over at the axle then this results in the two spokes flapping, as per wings, horizontally.

I haven't done the sums rq'd to ascertain the length of the vertical flap of the side strut centre point, nor the length of its horizontal toggle...but you'll hopefully appreciate that the combination of both movements results in these two centre points...the 2 points around which the weight is distributed & moving, in a fig of eight, are both, in themselves, turning in an ellipse, if not a circle.

I have the original gif of the same arrangement/motion within two hexagon rims...useful still to verify the toggles left/right & up/down...but I've no idea how to place it in this post. I have attached a few stills to assist though (Fig 3)

Weight..in Motion...a motion of strange circumstance....

Surely worthy of investigation...?

Best/Gill

[charly2]

Based in the sequence of fig 3, this remind me the device of Sixto Ramos, much more excentical distance in comparison with his device and double connector arm.
Is it related?

[Gill Simo]

Never heard of them charly2....perhaps you can lead me to their device please?

[charly2]

According to the inventor it is a force multiplier. Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fslf98aw7E is a replication and some details.
Years ago there was a topic here in BWF about Sixto and his device.

[Gill Simo]

Yeah....I started out here & noticed the same turn cycles....didn't think to give it a silly name though!
I just spent many hours over many months observing & thinking 'til my head was fit to implode....before realizing that this was just a double xbar, where one was moving, one was stationary (see attachment)....& that this resulted in one xbar turning about 2 points either end of the other xbar.
Turning my attention to both xbars moving, then the centre point of each side bar becomes the 2 points of turn & these 2 points constantly move...whilst the odd turn cycles, sorry...the force multiplier....disappears.
Maybe whatever the fella had in mind is still in there somewhere?
My preference for both xbars moving stems from my ever more firm belief that the Vesica Piscis, the root of all so called Sacred Geometry, holds the key to this quest.....& if you care to draw/imagine these two xbars as the diameters of two circles, then you will see that the motion here is that of a Vesica Piscis dancing in a fig8 around/through a single fixed point.

[ME]

you will see that the motion here is that of a Vesica Piscis dancing in a fig8 around/through a single fixed point.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 060#140060

[Gill Simo]

Not at all sure as to why you posted this, though much appreciated, erroneous image & link ME?
Could you perhaps put it to words ta.