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You just confirmed one of my own rules 'There are no absolutes'.

I will try and qualify absolutes.

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To be fair to yourself you didn't claim water was incompressible.

The reason it is so nearly incompressible is that it's under a huge compression
already. One can look at this either as due to the huge tension in the
relatively fluid phase putting the relatively solid phase into a balancing
compression, or look at it as the external compression applied by the
Beta-atmosphere.

https://frankgrimer.uk/LN_167_FJG.pdf

If you're interested in how I discovered that equation of state for water you
might like to read the following document where you will find the chain of
reasoning.

I hope to apply a similar chain of reasoning to the VimmyWheel (VW) now I have
got my teeth into the experimental side of things. 😊
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agor95 wrote:You just confirmed one of my own rules 'There are no absolutes'.

I will try and qualify absolutes.

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Your rule reminded me of a very talented E,O, in my section,
to wit, Peter Warren, who had a similar principle.

He said that whenever he started a research project he always looked
into the basic assumptions and invariably found they were wrong.

He left to become a technical director of a ready-mix concrete company.
What a waste.
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Did he do ceramics as a hobby?

This is the uncertainty principle - just to keep on topic :-)
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Back to the topic then, the Quantum

There's nothing special about the quantum of energy. Quanta apply
to everything - the birds the bees and the coconut trees.

As for the quantum of EM energy being the smallest packet of motion,
I don't believe it. Being atheists, physicists are always trying to put
boundaries on science, the quantum of energy and c as a maximum speed
are the current egregious examples.

Unfortunately for them these boundaries are always being broken.
The atom was the ultimate particle until it wasn't and entanglement will soon
demonstrate, by a practical application no doubt, that the velocity of light
is a breakable boundary.

https://newatlas.com/quantum-entangleme ... ght/26587/

At one of Feynman's lectures a woman was mocked for claiming,
..........."It's turtles all the way down."
I agree with her. If the number of primes can be without limit then so
can the universe.
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I would like to believe wave lengths can be smaller than the PLANK constant.

However when trying to create such energies we end up creating particles.

So the extra energy is deflected into matter than into pure increase of EM wave frequencies.

I have considered this ultra-high frequencies do not interact with the EM frequencies we deal with in your WORLDS :-)

However during the hyper-inflation phase of the Universe some of these ultra-high frequencies would shift down until they cross the threshold and our Universe condenses out at that time.

This does mean that as the expansion continues more dark matter is create as this process has not stopped.

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agor95 wrote:However when trying to create such energies we end up creating particles.
Maybe we aren't creating them the right way.
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Creating EM frequencies higher than the PLANK limit

For this to happen the method has to used like cavitation.

Where the distortion of magnetic field is collapsed upon itself and held compressed
via a electric rotating field.

Note. If i were to choose which one was real then I would chose the magnetic field.
However most know I think these are tension & compression fields so both are real.

The reason for thinking cavitation is the way is matter can only create post PLANK size effects.
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There's no such thing as tension. There's only reductions in compression.
Even Isaac knew that action at a distance was a nutty idea.
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Yes you have a good point.

A vacuum does not pull the air into the container but the compressed external air pushes into the container.

Also steal rods in concrete under tension help compress the concrete in bridges.

Based on the tension in the cables are greater than air pressure.
What is pushing on the cables?

That would help use remove the word 'tension'.
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agor95 wrote:Yes you have a good point.

A vacuum does not pull the air into the container but the compressed external air pushes into the container.

Also steel rods in concrete under tension help compress the concrete in bridges.

Based on the tension in the cables are greater than air pressure.
What is pushing on the cables?

That would help use remove the word 'tension'.
What is pushing on the cables is the beta-atmosphere, analogous to the alpha
atmosphere (the air). Tension is merely a reduction in the Beta atmosphere pressure.

I'll dig out some references for you.

This part of the discussion is a good place to dive in. There's more if you
can take the cognitive dissonance. 😎

https://frankgrimer.uk/Southampton%20Co ... /pd864.jpg
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Tension equates to 'Reduced Compression'

I did a quick read and linked this to some little examples

Clay expands when drying out.

It could be said the fluid [water] is less compressed that the clay [solid].

Trees drop branches when there is a drought.

The fluid [water] is giving tensile strength to the wood.
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Clay contracts when drying out.

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The water hides away in smaller and smaller cracks. Think tension in capillaries.
Really reduced compression of course.

Clay expands when wetting up.

Think of prestressed concrete.

If the steel is cooled (drying out of the electron fluid) it will shrink and put
more compression on the concrete which will contract.
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Well saturated clay on a lake bed does, as you show on your image.

As Frank did material stress testing for many years.

I would not want to conflict on this matter.

Could I put forward the idea that clay shrinks as shown.
As the water retreats between the clay particles the water pulls
electrostatically to bring them together.

However when the water departs from some clays the
electrostatic repulsion of the minerals particles result is a small expansion.
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I wouldn't argue with that.
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