BesslerWheel.com

[evgwheel]

I was going to post this as a poll, but had difficulties doing so. A helping hand would be much appreciated, but only if you think it is worth it.

Unlike perpetual motion, a website like this takes input from an external source.
External source (Scott) supplies Money, Maintenance/Equipment, and Time so we can enjoy our hobbies and passions. The following questions are here to establish, why there are so few donations?

No ability to pay by Paypall.
Need easy none Paypall option to donate.
Thought about donation?
Will donate soon.
Will not donate.
Can not afford a donation.
My $5 worth won’t make any difference.
Rather have advertising on site.
Hate adverting on site.
I did donate
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[rlortie]

Evg,

NO ability to donate by paypal is a lame duck excuse, before computers we used the the postal service, thence the old saying the check is in the mail"... Call it "snail-mail" if you wish but it gets the job done.

Ralph

[evgwheel]

Ralph
We will send a personal (Australian) cheque to
Address: Besslerwheel.com
Somewhere in North America
Or maybe a Money order
Donation $10
Cost $20
Yes there are other ways around it, but what are they? They have to be cost affective and easy. And I believe that is where this post is all about.
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[scott]

Hey All, I realized in this poll there is an opportunity for me to gauge something I've been wondering. Would you be willing to pay $1 a month for access to Community Buzz and the Albums feature?

I took the liberty of adding the option to Evg's poll. Sorry Evg, hope you don't mind.

If you already voted, please vote again and consider the new option.

Thanks,
Scott

[rlortie]

Scott,

Appears that once you vote you are blocked! I cannot re vote!

For what it is worth, I have donated $25.00 Every other year, I try to get it there over the Christmas Holidays but was rather late this year.

I do not believe a dollar a month paid every 24 months is out of line!

Evg, I owe you an apology my snail mail comment did not consider members of other countries with different currency. You make a good point and I now see your predicament. It cost more than the exchange rate to transfer pound Sterling to US dollar. I learned this the hard way when I hosted foreign exchange students.

Ralph

[evgwheel]

Scott
Don’t mind at all.
It is easy to transfer money within most counties. All my bills and eBay purchases are paid by money transfer (On-line) at a nominal or no fee at all.
Most people would not think twice of donating some money sometimes when they have a good week.
Unless you can come up with a good solution, for non-Americans to donate, I am afraid you may have to rely on your own countrymen and they don’t seem to generous.

Edit to reply to Ralph's edit; I hope that no one ever thinks that I would personally attack an other member, if it looks that way it is only to get a responce.
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[evgwheel]

Scott, you must be rolling in money. 37% donate to Besslerwheel.com
or am I missing something? lol
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[DrWhat]

WE should get paid each time we post. Without posts there would be no Besslerwheel web site :-)

It is like running a company and asking your employees to pay you, the boss!

If I get $1 per post, I think that's fair! lol

(ps where's my $1 for this post?!)

All fun aside I still think advertising is the best idea. Scott I've posted before saying that once I (!) discover the wheel, you will be getting millions of hits on this site, and this will get you enormous advertising revenue. A clever move I believe.

[bluesgtr44]

I'd rather it not be a fee....I should have donated earlier, it's the least I could do for Scott putting up with my crap! Just sent a small pay pal donation and again....should have done it long ago. Thanks Scott!


Steve

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Finding the right solution...is usually a function of asking the right questions. -A. Einstein

[LustInBlack]

I'm willing to donate whenever I believe it is worth doing so, however, if this site comes with a monthly payment, I'm gone ..

[Fletcher]

I have donated before & I also ticked willing to pay $1 per month [entertainment & education value alone] but an interesting thing just transpired.

I emailed an overunity.com member who is a retired German mechanical engineer living in Sydney - he studied Bessler's books & also is fluent in Latin, so I asked him to comment on Stewart's Latin translation on the springs & pins quote in DT [General Discussion : The Solution To Bessler's Wheel - Stewart] - he is taking a look now & hopefully will give his more full opinion [than he gave me privately] after looking at just the few Latin words out of context I sent him - the upshot is I invited him to go to Besslerwheel.com & read the entire posts for himself as he requested the context & DT page numbers.

It raised an interesting point though - I'm not sure someone new would pay to look at threads [say in Community Buzz & Albums] if they had no previous gauge of the relative 'worth' of this site - I would suggest it would put new members off & limit the gene pool so to speak - therefore I think advertising [although a pain at times] might be the better way to go or continue to relay on sporadic donations ? - The other alternative is to make membership free for a period of time & then ask for a small annual fee to retain annual membership - trouble is, many would decline & re-register under another handle to avoid paying anything at all, even if they were getting good service & value from the site - no easy answer !

[rlortie]

LIB,

[LustInBlack]

The problem isn't the money. The problem is that in essence, the information is free.. I don't believe that "forcing" people to pay is a good solution ..

I have the free right to pay a donation, that's alright with me and I will in the future probably give a donation...

I strongly believe the information on the forum is worth something, but since I have read a lot, I don't see what benefit I would get from donating ..

I see the point, the management of the site tho .. The only reason I would donate then, is to convert gratitude into ca$h .. But I already pay my internet provider for giving me the opportunity to freely get the information I need, so I don't see the point of paying more...

[DrWhat]

double post...slow connection, grrrr...

[DrWhat]

Once the secret is discovered this site will be swamped by a massive flood of visitors' and new members' posts. Probably for quite a long time, maybe indefinitely. It will be impossible for us to keep discussions going in our "little group" unless we work within Private Forums.

Advertising is the way to go but if this forum becomes financially unviable I am happy to contribute to keep it going.