The Keno Bessler Connection
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re: The Keno Bessler Connection
I said I would not post here unless it was to defend the Keno family. That does not imply that I am not monitoring it.
Any chance of it getting back on topic, I do not see much reason to come here to not understand how the killing of Incas, cultural beliefs and religious beliefs has any bearing on the Keno Bessler connection.
It appears that Rocky has thrown up his hands and walked away only to start another thread.
Ralph
Any chance of it getting back on topic, I do not see much reason to come here to not understand how the killing of Incas, cultural beliefs and religious beliefs has any bearing on the Keno Bessler connection.
It appears that Rocky has thrown up his hands and walked away only to start another thread.
Ralph
re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Getting back on topic, I am doing my best to helping divert attention for you Ralph. Yes, you’re welcome.
There is not one solid piece of evidence that links Keno to Bessler is there Ralph? Just one man’s obsession; could have been the same story today upon the death of any one of the forum members.
There is not one solid piece of evidence that links Keno to Bessler is there Ralph? Just one man’s obsession; could have been the same story today upon the death of any one of the forum members.
What goes around, comes around.
re: The Keno Bessler Connection
I do not know of any substantiated evidence that the present day Keno's is or were related to Bessler. Also there is no evidence to my knowledge that Bessler's brother Gottfried ever showed up in England. John C. appears to believe he did but after leaving Johan's side he appears to have simply vanished.
The only alleged evidence found is a birth certificate for a 'Johan Gottfried_________ Born in Prussia. Question is, was he named after the two brothers? Both names were very popular at the time.
The Keno family insist their forefathers migrated from France and have no knowledge of any German ancestry.
If I ruffled your feathers I apologize, just got a little upset to be notified of a new post on this thread only to find it off topic.
Ralph
The only alleged evidence found is a birth certificate for a 'Johan Gottfried_________ Born in Prussia. Question is, was he named after the two brothers? Both names were very popular at the time.
The Keno family insist their forefathers migrated from France and have no knowledge of any German ancestry.
If I ruffled your feathers I apologize, just got a little upset to be notified of a new post on this thread only to find it off topic.
Ralph
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re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Actually I thought perhaps I should let sleeping dogs lie.It appears that Rocky has thrown up his hands and walked away only to start another thread.
I was expecting a thunderstorm of zingers from Doc for posting this thread. Doc's last post was June 2010.
Does anyone know if Doc is still with us?
I have a lot of private information that Doc asked me to keep private. I only mentioned what he posted on the forum for a recap.
I had a lot of success using ancestory.com to trace the Keno/Kienow family back to Europe. I had to build a spreadsheet to keep track of who is related to who. I was thinking of posting it but that would upset Doc. But if Doc is no longer with us then I can let the skeletons out of the closet. But that would really make Ron mad so perhaps I shouldn't.
But at the moment I am more interested in using ancestry.com to find the relatives of all the deceased American inventors who said they applied for a patent; especially those who said a model of it is in Washington DC. Yet no record of them is found in the patent search under applications.
Does anyone have a suggestion for a first contact letter I should send to possible relatives of these past PM inventors?
I probable should mention that if they are related to this inventor that great finanical rewards could be theirs if we could locate the invention or get plans of it. That should get them to call me or write me back don't you think?
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"All the clues become clear when you see the working machine." - Rocky
"Perhaps God will allow you to invent it, and fathom the mystery of true motive power." -Johann Bessler AP 265
"All the clues become clear when you see the working machine." - Rocky
"Perhaps God will allow you to invent it, and fathom the mystery of true motive power." -Johann Bessler AP 265
re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Ron is the son of the inventor and father of the twins. You will find him mentioned in the links I previously posted.
When I first approached Ron out of the blue I gave him the link to this forum site to prove that my intentions were for real. The best incentive you can offer is right before your eyes!
Ron responded with our first contact in less that twelve hours!
No I have not heard anything from Doc since his last visit here. I will drop a line to his wife and maybe she will respond, knowing what I know on a personal basis I cannot promise an answer. As most of us are aware he has or had a severe case of diabetes (diabetes mellitus)...
Ralph
Careful how you word that! it already sounds like a Nigerian scam! You will have to sell yourself first gaining their confidence that you are really looking for leads to the invention.I probable should mention that if they are related to this inventor that great financial rewards could be theirs if we could locate the invention or get plans of it. That should get them to call me or write me back don't you think?
When I first approached Ron out of the blue I gave him the link to this forum site to prove that my intentions were for real. The best incentive you can offer is right before your eyes!
Ron responded with our first contact in less that twelve hours!
No I have not heard anything from Doc since his last visit here. I will drop a line to his wife and maybe she will respond, knowing what I know on a personal basis I cannot promise an answer. As most of us are aware he has or had a severe case of diabetes (diabetes mellitus)...
Ralph
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re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Why would Ron be mad about his family tree on this site? His sons are sort of famous enough that there is prying eyes already.
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What goes around, comes around.
re: The Keno Bessler Connection
I agree Dax, in fact if Rocky can prove that their ancestry dates back to Bessler I am some what sure that they would be interested in it. It may give them the incentive to look harder for the missing book. providing it is not already in Fletcher and Tinhead's hands.
The cat is already out of the bag and the barn door is open! what is there left to keep confidential? The only thing left not mentioned is the first name of the the man who designed and had the wheel built.
Ralph
The cat is already out of the bag and the barn door is open! what is there left to keep confidential? The only thing left not mentioned is the first name of the the man who designed and had the wheel built.
Ralph
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re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Without wishing to put a damper of the ancestry rsearch, none of Bessler's daughters married anyone with the name Keno or anything resembling it.
JC
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When can we expect your new book JC?
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I'm finally getting to grips with it daxwc and actually trying to finish it! I'm not going to give an ETA as I've been caught out many times before, but this time my dear wife is behind me so it will be finished before long, or else!
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Re: re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Careful how you word that! it already sounds like a Nigerian scam! You will have to sell yourself first gaining their confidence that you are really looking for leads to the invention.
Ralph[/quote]
Ralph,
please don't use this forum to insinuate malevolence to Nigerians behavior, ok?
I'll thank you if you take care about these questions and this rude detraction!
BTW, I have with them more than 350 serious TOP contacts and I have in process MANY, I said MANY... zillions of dollars to receive very soon! OK?
Read my lips: Z I L L I O N S and virtually at no costs - I just had to sale one of my kidneys and nothing else.
Soon I'll put my hands on this amount and I'll be glad to be in contact with all BW's members and I'll comprehensively support every inquire any of you may have! The planet is saved, brother!
Best!
Muliro
Ralph[/quote]
Ralph,
please don't use this forum to insinuate malevolence to Nigerians behavior, ok?
I'll thank you if you take care about these questions and this rude detraction!
BTW, I have with them more than 350 serious TOP contacts and I have in process MANY, I said MANY... zillions of dollars to receive very soon! OK?
Read my lips: Z I L L I O N S and virtually at no costs - I just had to sale one of my kidneys and nothing else.
Soon I'll put my hands on this amount and I'll be glad to be in contact with all BW's members and I'll comprehensively support every inquire any of you may have! The planet is saved, brother!
Best!
Muliro
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re: The Keno Bessler Connection
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re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Dear path!
Yes! I respect to 100% of Nigerians, so as I'm sorry for some, since they STILL present this simpleton behavior!
They think that people is more stupid than normal and this became a kind of fashion and success legend.
I worked for a power semiconductor co. for 15 years and together to several other stuffs I made exports for 9.
On those times of the old envelope post and telex, I got some inquires from Nigeria, which I remember well.
Once a guy sent a 'conditional order' for 20 million pieces for 1A diodes, at 0,10 cost/each, payment under a London confirmed letter of credit.
Before the LC and shipment he should make a try and test, and so before I should send him a 'free sample' for 200 thousand pcs... nothing else. 8)
Of sure, I 'considered' him very seriously, sending a global proforma invoice, package and air freight, and... 2 samples...
You see... they got still no evolution on this matter, so I'm sorry for them!
Best!
M
Yes! I respect to 100% of Nigerians, so as I'm sorry for some, since they STILL present this simpleton behavior!
They think that people is more stupid than normal and this became a kind of fashion and success legend.
I worked for a power semiconductor co. for 15 years and together to several other stuffs I made exports for 9.
On those times of the old envelope post and telex, I got some inquires from Nigeria, which I remember well.
Once a guy sent a 'conditional order' for 20 million pieces for 1A diodes, at 0,10 cost/each, payment under a London confirmed letter of credit.
Before the LC and shipment he should make a try and test, and so before I should send him a 'free sample' for 200 thousand pcs... nothing else. 8)
Of sure, I 'considered' him very seriously, sending a global proforma invoice, package and air freight, and... 2 samples...
You see... they got still no evolution on this matter, so I'm sorry for them!
Best!
M
re: The Keno Bessler Connection
Dax wrote:
Welcome, self-proclaimed super genius.
Actually, no. "For he [Pilate] knew that because of envy they had handed Him over." (Matthew 27:18)Say wasn’t Christ killed over religion.
Discussion over.
Yes, I am a super genius too 8P
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