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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Mark,

IMO it does not necessarily have to be pointed at Ezekiel's wheel. It is the word 'Proverb' that for some reason after all these years caught my attention.

First I confirmed the meaning of 'proverb' as meaning something religious or Biblical. A Google search of proverb and wheel brought up the information I posted above plus a lot more!

You can see that interpretations differ and some can be compared to other Bessler statement and alleged clues.

Its basically another 'take it for what its worth' input.

Ralph


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

http://www.learn-english-today.com/Proverbs/proverbs_A-K.html

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What is a proverb? A proverb is a short well-known expression that states a general truth or gives advice.

What is a saying? A saying is a well-known expression, or a remark often made, also known as a proverb.


http://www.sermonnotebook.org/old%20testament/Exodus%2015_22-27%20Lessons%20Learned%20AT%20Lifes%20Bitter%20Pools.htm

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Exodus 15:22-27 LESSONS LEARNED AT LIFE'S BITTER POOLS

Intro: Very often learning lessons is a bitter experience. Yet, while this is true, it is also true that experience is the best teacher.

You can tell a child repeatedly that fire, the stove, etc is hot, but they never really get it until they have been burned. When this happens, they can relate to what hot means. It is a lesson they will never forget as long as they live, but it was a bitter lesson to have to learn.

Unfortunately, we all seem to possess this same characteristic. We have to be burned before we can learn!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Thanks, Ralph. When I first read that post I was a little perplexed. I recognized the text describing Ezekiel's vision, but couldn't figure the connection to the particular "old proverb" that Bessler was referring to.
At least now I understand why you posted it. Was beginning to think you were losin' it. :D

Fletcher, I didn't have to learn "hot stove" first hand. My dumbass older brother grabbed a pot one day (the old kind, metal pan with a metal handle) without a potholder. Hearing him holler and seeing the bright red imprint on his hand was good enough for me!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Mark wrote:
I didn't have to learn "hot stove" first hand. My dumbass older brother grabbed a pot one day (the old kind, metal pan with a metal handle) without a potholder. Hearing him holler and seeing the bright red imprint on his hand was good enough for me!

Mark, you also learned through experience. You actually saw what happened to your brother when something was hot.

I do not know if there is a biblical proverb to match the proverb Bessler was discussing. The Bible is not an exclusive source for all proverbs.




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Jim_Mich writes:

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The Bible is not an exclusive source for all proverbs.


The Chinese are IMO the best known for proverbs:



Quote:
Wisdom comes from experience.
不 经 一 事, 不 长 一 智
Bù jīng yī shì, bù zhǎng yī zhì


Quote:
A fall into the pit, a gain in your wit.
吃 一 堑, 长 一 智.
Chī yí qiàn, zhǎng yí zhì.


Quote:
Failure is the mother of success.
失 败 是 成 功 之 母.
Shī bài shì chéng gōng zhī mǔ.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

''Much worthy two flying elephants than one in your hand!'' 8\


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Jim,

No, no, no, don't pin that one on me! That was Ralph that brought Biblical into it. :D

Yes, it's true. I learned from the experience. But when making Mental Notes To Self, there's a difference between Never do that again, and Don't ever do that. In that instance it also meant the difference between crying and laughing. Not that he didn't sock me for it later.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

This is a company i buy gears etc.off when building models....the largest bore size is 3/8".....its good quality and inexpensive and with a bit of ingenuity annular gear can be made up .....hope this is of help to some of you. http://www.motionco.co.uk/gears-worm-gears-c-32_46.html


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Dear rasselasss,
Many thanks for the link.
Here is wher I purchase my plastic gears:
http://www.conrad.fr/roues_dentees_divers_c_50802_51613_51624



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Change of Subject.......I'm curious to know when John Collin's will reveal his "Bessler"wheel,if i rem.correctly its to coincide with the 300th anniversary,i hope he is successful after putting much time,effort and money into the venture.....to me personally he deserves credit as does most of the members here who participate in constructive and intelligent input .....so will he succeed where so many of us and others have failed...what do you think?


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

rasselasss,

Read the last few posting on his blog at:
http://johncollinsnews.blogspot.com/

The timer at the top of the page is counting down
to 6 June 2012.


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Quick update on JC's plan to reveal his wheel design...

from: http://johncollinsnews.blogspot.com/

Sunday, 6 May 2012

"... it's no good posting designs for gravitywheels because no-one will accept anything except a working model. So regretfully I have decided against sharing my design for now..."


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Probably true Bill. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I dont know what Bessler did but I am building a perpetual pendulum.
So very very simple on paper.
PITA in the shop though. Hopefully another week or two and have a video to post. Wish me good luck.



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: re: A Motion Machine Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

rasselasss wrote:
Change of Subject.......I'm curious to know when John Collin's will reveal his "Bessler"wheel,if i rem.correctly its to coincide with the 300th anniversary,i hope he is successful after putting much time,effort and money into the venture.....to me personally he deserves credit as does most of the members here who participate in constructive and intelligent input .....so will he succeed where so many of us and others have failed...what do you think?


Doesn't have a chance. Ive never thought his actions were conducive to creating a wheel. Talks of having a "builder" which is like having someone else sleep with your wife for you. Your not going to get much out of it if your not involved.



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

I think John does his own builds.


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