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[iacob alex]

.....is a lever also (Earth-Moon system)..

-fulcrum(barycenter)
-fixed arm (with Earth )
-variable arm (with moving Moon between long arm/405.000km and small arm/362.600km).

E pur si muove...

All the best 2012!/ Alex

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[iacob alex]

...as a basic concept,needs:

-a fulcrum (support)

-a pulsatory leverage (action of a lever)

-masses (minimum two)

An appropiate model is Earth-Moon ("PM"),with :

-the fulcrum (inside the Earth,about 1707 Km ,below the surface)

-the pulsatory leverage (linkage,connection),with an average length of 384.405 Km (the only one variable arm is "unseen"...that of Moon)

-the massic ratio is 1/0,012

So,our "originality" regarding a possible gravity engine can have as a first step ,nothing more than an imitation of a natural model ?!

All the best! / Alex

[Tarsier79]

[iacob alex]

Hi !

The word "mass" refers to a fundamental property of a body (coerent matter ) as representing the resistance to acceleration or deceleration.

The word "masses" refers to at least two masses...

For instance,Earth-Moon system is a binary,-or double planet system.

With a single mass (fulcrum-link-mass) you have a pendulum...

All the best ! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....is in fact,the most important thing about the everlasting "perpetuum mobile" idea.

His origin ,in my opinion comes from history:the perpetual motion of the massive celestial bodies.

This can be the PM natural model.

We can see only a part of his heavenly "carousel" :spinning and revolving masses (stars and planets),moving ("falling") from one place to another.

The most important detail is missing (is invisible),their linkage/connections ,but...we know an lot of things (inertia,gravity,acceleration).

Mechanics begins with Archimedes and simple machines.

The lever is the basic one ,if we intend to comprehend any kind of mechanical motion.

The perpetual motion of the binary Earth-Moon ,can be imagined as a rotating lever with one pulsatory arm (fulcrum=barycenter,Earth=great mass/small arm ,Moon=small mass/pulsatory long arm).

A conditional for this "cosmic lever"can be : the colinearity of three points (barycenter,mass centers of Earth and Moon).

A PM device,we are looking for,can have a "self'-rotation:
-as a revolving wheel (pulsatory lever inside) on a horizontal line
-as a turning crank (lever) on a bearing

So,let's play the lever(or seesaw,if you like)...

All the best ! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....that is Moon-Earth has a "datum" of masses:1/81.

Maybe,it can help us to build a workable model...let's have fresh eyes !

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

....gives us some basic data,if we intend to test (and play!) a "copy" of it.

This model is as simple,as possible:a fulcrum,a first class lever with a single variable arm and two masses.

Let's try an elementary calculus of this cosmic "toy": the data are "free" on net.

The two masses:M/m=81/1 ,where:

-"M" is the "big" mass on the unchanging arm

-"m" is the small mass on the changing arm

The two arms :`"L/l"=~70/1 ,"L1/l"=~65/1 , "L2/l"=~75/1 ,where:

-"l" is the length of the unchanged/constant arm of the "big" mass ("read" Earth)

-"L" is the medium length of the changing/variable arm ("read" Moon)

-"L1" is the short length of the variable arm

-"L2" is the long length of the variable arm

We must add a "natural" condition: the "three points colinearity"(fulcrum with the centers of mass of "M"/Earth and "m"/Moon )...a common lever,bar.

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....for a gravity powered device,is up here,including details (from net...).

It can be a proof that leverage is the basic concept.

Even more,the Earth-Moon binary system is only a small part from the a huge leverage:Sun System.

It's difficult for the moment to imagine his dynamics,but...

...his statics,can be something alike of a movie on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=jJrzIdDUfT4&vq=medium

As a starting point,sometimes ,science is nothing but perception...

All the best! / Alex

[Fletcher]

Alex may view the earth moon relationship as some sort of lever with the fulcrum at the barycenter.

It is actually a couple.

When I was a kid I didn't understand why there were 2 tides per day in my part of the world as the moon passed overhead only once per day roughly - most people I asked thought it was because of Cf's causing the second high tide when the moon was on the opposite side of the world to me - they reasoned this I suppose because they mostly said that the moon rotated around the earth though I suspect it was just a convenient explanation handed down.

This didn't make too much sense because Cf's would show greatest effect near the equator where velocity was highest & that would have to align with the passage of the moon overhead & behind which it didn't appear to do with any great accuracy as we were at a lower latitude.

I forgot about it until I was older & now I have a different view.

The earth & moon form a rotating couple in physics terms - they share a center of rotation called the barycenter - this point is located within the earth but is not the earths center - it is located closer to the surface than the center - this means that the earth & moon 'dance' around each other circling the barycenter - this means that the earth is slightly deflected from a curvilinear path to a path that has a more shallow periodic sine shape [in & out so to speak].

So, when in the sky overhead the high tide is caused by the moons gravity pulling the water mass - the second high tide roughly 12 hrs 25 mins later is because the earth has moved slightly in space due to the couple rotating the barycenter - IOW's the earth is shifted laterally in its forward motion which leaves the seas behind forming a bulge we see as the second high tide in most parts of the world, but not all.

There may be a better more accurate model than what I just described but I was happy to have an answer that made some sort of sense at the time.

[iacob alex]

....or Earth-Moon as a leverage binary system, is simply a rotating and revolving part in the huge Sun-System (also a leverage...).

For gravity "free" energy (a machine...),if we intend to use this natural model we must add "something"...

Sorry,but we must think in Newton's terms:inertia,acceleration,action and reaction ,so to explain or imagine any kind of natural or man-made machine (here we need the famous fulcrum/support point of Archimedes ).

Science does not know its debt to imagination...because images "rules" the world.

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....this evening ,will display the small partener of this natural leverage ,as a "Super-Moon".

Kindly greeting beloved ally!

Learning without thought is labor lost/Confucius.

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....Earth-Moon,has as a stable fulcrum the huge mass of the Sun.

The distance between the Earth (we must include here, the barycenter of the binary system Earth-Moon) and the Sun,varies slightly over the course of the year,from a minimum of 147,1 million Km,to a maximum of 152,1 million Km( 0,98/1/1,02 AU ).

So,a possible model must include the mobility of the barycenter...and finally we must play a double (pulsatory) leverage !

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBANgbRkws

For the stability of this natural binary system,the barycenter changes his position (to and fro),inside the Earth.

Because our "binary" system (PM device ),is intended to play in gravity a continuous unbalance...we need a "fixed point":the baricenter will move to and fro,on the same side of this fulcrum...

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

......short animation at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W47Wa7onrIQ&feature=related

It can open a "glimpse" for a second sight: the next design(and easy test....) of a double leveraged pendulum.

.....and yet it moves!("Eppur si muove").

All the best ! / Alex