It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than trying to solely profit
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
is that room temperature in summer or winter
the uneducated
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
I dunno, but over here we talk in Celcius which doesn't look to good for me :)
re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Robert,
As I have already stated I am a forgiving guy. I can not speak for Mr. Kelly, but I accept you apology. I might add that you are not wrong to think that somebody may be pulling some sort of shenanigan, it's called skepticism, Nor is it wrong to put your concerns forward in the form of a question.
Voicing such thoughts forward as a statement, without substantiation is what got you into this mess and what you are apologizing for.
I will remove my red hit on your rep bar, but you will have to re-earn any green from me.
Ralph
As I have already stated I am a forgiving guy. I can not speak for Mr. Kelly, but I accept you apology. I might add that you are not wrong to think that somebody may be pulling some sort of shenanigan, it's called skepticism, Nor is it wrong to put your concerns forward in the form of a question.
Voicing such thoughts forward as a statement, without substantiation is what got you into this mess and what you are apologizing for.
I will remove my red hit on your rep bar, but you will have to re-earn any green from me.
Ralph
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re: It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than
Ralph wrote:
Anyway, I'm glad to see that things are simmering down now and that we can, hopefully, look forward to Robert's input on this Discussion Board in the future.
ken
Well, I do not consider myself "biased" one way or another with respect to Robert. I tried to evaluate the situation as objectively as possible and came to the conclusion that what happened was just the result of a war of words that, unfortunately, got out of hand.I am still laughing at his offer to nominate his own trial judge. Being on the other end of the stick, I would say that is a little hunt for a biased opinion or predilection.
Anyway, I'm glad to see that things are simmering down now and that we can, hopefully, look forward to Robert's input on this Discussion Board in the future.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Ken,
LOL! <Well, I do not consider myself "biased" one way or another with respect to Robert.>
I did not consider you biased either, It was just my opinion of the way Robert nominated you for judge, as though he was hoping you would be. Now it is time to forgive and forget.
And I too am happy to see things calming down. It has been a long time since anyone has had a conversation on this thread regarding subject matter.
Ralph
LOL! <Well, I do not consider myself "biased" one way or another with respect to Robert.>
I did not consider you biased either, It was just my opinion of the way Robert nominated you for judge, as though he was hoping you would be. Now it is time to forgive and forget.
And I too am happy to see things calming down. It has been a long time since anyone has had a conversation on this thread regarding subject matter.
Ralph
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With Robert showing a little humility, it changes things.
Is it sincere, or just another one of his games? - time will tell, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, willing to wipe the slate clean.
Bill is right about "frustration" in this field (especially when a much hyped build fails), it could possibly boil over into business, relationships and this forum. Maybe that was the case with Robert.
And of course, Robert is not a homo - that was just an opportunistic play on his words.
Life goes on.....
Is it sincere, or just another one of his games? - time will tell, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, willing to wipe the slate clean.
Bill is right about "frustration" in this field (especially when a much hyped build fails), it could possibly boil over into business, relationships and this forum. Maybe that was the case with Robert.
And of course, Robert is not a homo - that was just an opportunistic play on his words.
Life goes on.....
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Yes, the quest for OU/PM can be very frustrating and enough to try the patience of a saint!
However, I've found some interesting parallels between our "quest" and other types of human activity. Consider, for example, the sport of body building. Most professional body builders will tell the person interested in the sport that its pursuit will require tremendous effort and dedication. Even the advanced body builder is aware that he (or she!) is always in constant contact with his (her) physical and mental limits as they struggle to force themselves to even greater size and definition. This applies to equally to those who are "natural" athletes and those who, unfortunately, have opted to try to enhance their physique / performance through steroid usage.
In similar fashion, those who pursue OU/PM are also always in contact with their physical and mental limitations. One only has so many hours in a day available to work on the problem, so much physical effort to expend on it, so much money, and so much knowledge of math, physics, and mechanics. I think each of us is constantly trying to push our progress a bit farther with every effort we make.
Will it pay off in the long run? Sadly, for the vast majority of PM seekers, the answer is "No". They will not be the one to do it and be officially credited with the achievement. However, they can, if they publish their work, take some comfort in knowing that they may , in some small measure, have contributed to someone else's success. It's not much, but it's better than nothing for a lifetime of effort.
And, of course, like all mental activities, the quest will, over time, increase the number of neurons in one's brain and the total number of interconnections between them. A PM seeker may, thus, be assured of enjoying his remaining years with a mind that is still sharp and active...
ken
However, I've found some interesting parallels between our "quest" and other types of human activity. Consider, for example, the sport of body building. Most professional body builders will tell the person interested in the sport that its pursuit will require tremendous effort and dedication. Even the advanced body builder is aware that he (or she!) is always in constant contact with his (her) physical and mental limits as they struggle to force themselves to even greater size and definition. This applies to equally to those who are "natural" athletes and those who, unfortunately, have opted to try to enhance their physique / performance through steroid usage.
In similar fashion, those who pursue OU/PM are also always in contact with their physical and mental limitations. One only has so many hours in a day available to work on the problem, so much physical effort to expend on it, so much money, and so much knowledge of math, physics, and mechanics. I think each of us is constantly trying to push our progress a bit farther with every effort we make.
Will it pay off in the long run? Sadly, for the vast majority of PM seekers, the answer is "No". They will not be the one to do it and be officially credited with the achievement. However, they can, if they publish their work, take some comfort in knowing that they may , in some small measure, have contributed to someone else's success. It's not much, but it's better than nothing for a lifetime of effort.
And, of course, like all mental activities, the quest will, over time, increase the number of neurons in one's brain and the total number of interconnections between them. A PM seeker may, thus, be assured of enjoying his remaining years with a mind that is still sharp and active...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Ken,
Ever heard of Kinky Friedmann? Calls himself "The Texas Jew Boy", and is running for Governor there.
He likes to say, " If you're going to tell the truth all the time, you better have half your ass in the saddle and one foot in the stirrup."
As Satchel Paige said, "Walk, don't run, and don't look behind you, they might be gaining on ya."
robert
Ever heard of Kinky Friedmann? Calls himself "The Texas Jew Boy", and is running for Governor there.
He likes to say, " If you're going to tell the truth all the time, you better have half your ass in the saddle and one foot in the stirrup."
As Satchel Paige said, "Walk, don't run, and don't look behind you, they might be gaining on ya."
robert
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If you paid for and downloaded an mp3 song, would it be legal to put a button on a webpage for others to play it, while at the same time watching a video?
I think it would be nice to hear music while watching a video.
Robert
I think it would be nice to hear music while watching a video.
Robert
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Hmmm...what song did you have in mind?
Steve
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Robert asks:
ken
I think that you might be able to do that just so long as you are not charging visitors to hear the song or allowing them to download the song free of charge. It's similar to someone who owns a bar or restaurant tuning a radio on the premises to a music station so that patrons can listen to "background" music while they dine.If you paid for and downloaded an mp3 song, would it be legal to put a button on a webpage for others to play it, while at the same time watching a video?
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Ken,
That's considered a commercial use of the music and companies like Muzak make a living selling in those venues and passing on a royalty to the ones entitled to it. I actually thought like you did until someone with a company like Muzak came into a bbq restaurant I was managing asking me if I'd like to buy that service or be hauled to court for stealing it. I turned the radio off. It's different playing the radio in the kitchen for the employees.
Gene
It's similar to someone who owns a bar or restaurant tuning a radio on the premises to a music station so that patrons can listen to "background" music while they dine.
That's considered a commercial use of the music and companies like Muzak make a living selling in those venues and passing on a royalty to the ones entitled to it. I actually thought like you did until someone with a company like Muzak came into a bbq restaurant I was managing asking me if I'd like to buy that service or be hauled to court for stealing it. I turned the radio off. It's different playing the radio in the kitchen for the employees.
Gene
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Gene...
Indeed, the subject of music rights can be a complex one. I think Robert should email the site he purchased the MP3 music file from and see exactly what "rights" his purchase price included.
ken
Indeed, the subject of music rights can be a complex one. I think Robert should email the site he purchased the MP3 music file from and see exactly what "rights" his purchase price included.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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I think I like "Flora's Secret" from from Enya's "A Day Without Rain" album.bluesgtr44 wrote:Hmmm...what song did you have in mind?
Steve
She overdubbed all the vocal and instrumental on this album, playing and singing everything herself. Almost like the typical PM researcher, working alone.......
http://www.fourgates.com/music_enya.asp for more information
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Yes Ken, I was going to ask them if I could do it. "Enya", is "New Age". I think it would complement nicely.
BTW I was wondering if you all mind me posting small notes about what I'm sort of up to?
robert
BTW I was wondering if you all mind me posting small notes about what I'm sort of up to?
robert
Robert (The Carpenter's Boy)
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.
There's never time to do it right the first time, but there's always time to do it over again.