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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

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I put the quotation marks around the proven because there are so many that claim their pet theories are proven and not because they have been proven in reality.

I think Einstein really did enjoy the challenge of the unknown. Perhaps he was more secure than most. He had his own hangups though with quantum mechanics. He called them spooky. One does not have to delve very deeply into them to discover that our perceptions of time and space may be an illusion. This tends to be unsettling to those who want to believe that their personal perceptions are real and accurate and a safe basis to theorize about the substance and origin of the universe.

The truth is that there is nothing that man can know for sure except that he has a mind which is questioning.

'I think, therefore I am' - Descartes



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

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The truth is that there is nothing that man can know for sure except that he has a mind which is questioning."

Very True!

My... hasn't this topic taken off! It's scoring more responses than the "On-Topic" areas! LOL!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

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So the next logical step beyond self realization is that anything we believe is a matter of choice. I have chosen to believe that God exists and there is evidence that this is so. Others may chose to believe that God does not exist.

As they say, "the proof is in the pudding". We will know in the end or we will not know at all.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Vic... Exactly my Sentiments!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

I agree that most people tend to believe in what they want to believe in which is something that makes them feel psychologically / emotionally comfortable and ignore evidence to the contrary as much as possible. However, this approach to dealing with reality has its limits. Eventually, when the evidence to the contrary of one's world view becomes overwhelming enough, then change will take place.

Right now, it is only the complete absence of a working OU/PM device which enables the orthodox scientific community to continue to ignore and deny the possibility of such a device. Even in Bessler's day with the actual existence of such a device, the critics were able to hold sway and maintain their pronouncement that mechanical perpetual motion was impossible. I suspect that, even if Bessler had revealed the secret of his wheels, that there still would have been many back then who would have said that it was all a hoax. Only when a working wheel with all of its parts visible was slid under their noses would they then, grudgingly, have admitted that Bessler had done it.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Reply with quote Report Post to Admin

Research leading to substantiation can take many turns in the road before the consensus to make a final agreed conclusion. Even then we have the biased or those that will not except. That is what makes the social world turn and the philosphy of all seekers to the answer in life have in commmon.

Here Is an example, Is it substantial?





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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:09 am    Post subject: re: The joy of not knowing Report Post to Admin

Was it before or after? LOL!


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