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[paul1]

Hello ,
I think my computer is playing up .
My posts or images dont appear on the thread.
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[Doroteo Armando Rodriguez]

Dear Path_finder
I am really very impress with your proposals , their scope and quality of presentation... I have been a perpetuist for more than 3 decades, and for over a decade an Official in the Dominican Goverment, in the area of alternative energies... I happen to be in France now in a sort of sabatical... and hope it may be chance for us to meet in person. My twin brother and I have a quite different aproach to achieveing an Orffyreus-type solution. In the last few days I have revised all the albums of this site and found nothing as our aproach, please write me at teoarmando in yahoo.com... I already sent you a message a few days ago and have not received any answer. Also my cell phone here in Paris is 0643047510...
please lets get in personal contact, is not that I have any objection to the forum, I think this has been a formidable international THINK-TANK that honors Orffyreus and covers --in a way-- for the irresponsal and poorly intelligent actitude of main sciences for almost 3 centuries now...
Well in any case consider me your admirer
Doroteo Armando Rodriguez

[jim_mich]

[paul1]

Thanks Jim its the post I did today with illustrations I was refering too.

Looks like someone else appreciates path_finders talents .

[paul1]

I will start a new thread ,
So that I can show my design and invite members to comment and hopefully I can explain myself more clearly .

[murilo]

[quote="Doroteo Armando Rodriguez"]Dear Path_finder
I am really very impress with your proposals , their scope and quality of presentation... I have been a perpetuist for more than 3 decades, and for over a decade an Official in the Dominican Goverment, in the area of alternative energies... I happen to be in France now in a sort of sabatical... and hope it may be chance for us to meet in person. My twin brother and I have a quite different aproach to achieveing an Orffyreus-type solution. In the last few days I have revised all the albums of this site and found nothing as our aproach, please write me at teoarmando in yahoo.com... I already sent you a message a few days ago and have not received any answer. Also my cell phone here in Paris is 0643047510...
please lets get in personal contact, is not that I have any objection to the forum, I think this has been a formidable international THINK-TANK that honors Orffyreus and covers --in a way-- for the irresponsal and poorly intelligent actitude of main sciences for almost 3 centuries now...
Well in any case consider me your admirer

path,
in the intent to be helpful, I recommend you Doroteo that I know since 2002, from other FE forum.
I can say that, for sure, he will not disturb you and will have interesting stuffs to deal... if you can and if you're not in Congo.

Welcome to BW forum, Doroteo!

Best!
Murilo

[path_finder]

Dear Murillo,
Many thanks for the recommendation.

Dear Mr Doroteo,
I'm still in Paris but was really busy the last days.
I will contact you Mr Doroteo. Thanks.

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I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...

[path_finder]

My latest idea is to combine the two following mechanisms:
1. The quad rhomboical set of weights, like shown hereafter, rotating around the main center of the wheel..
Only one is represented here for a better view, but they are four, dephased of 90 grades.
2. The quad_pedalist mechanical assembly, like here (earlier display):
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/files/quad_pedalist.gif
obliging the COG of each quad-rhombic assembly to keep the right position.
Note: with this design, there is absolutely no connection at all with the center of the wheel.
Also, the final COG (combination of the four COG of the rhombics) is suspended in the air.
This concept has been explained here: http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=89998#89998

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[jim_mich]

That is an interesting assembly with interesting motion. But does it accomplish anything? (Rhetorical question.)

[path_finder]

Dear Jim_Mich,

[path_finder]

I guess my signature becomes day after day more pertinent.
Hereafter two shots of my latest wheel, very simple like you can see.
In these two shots (front and top view) the central link is a rigid rod, but in fact I discovered the vertues of the spring, used in the compression mode.
In the third drawing you can see why: the A weight being locked, the spring allows the eccentricity of the B weight.
This situation will be reversed after a half turn.
May be the wish made few days ago at 'Times Square' for the 2012 Eve will soon become a reality?

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[path_finder]

[path_finder]

Another possible improvement for the above design http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/files/thumbs/t_quad_freewheels.png: how to implement the pushing spring?
The first idea coming in mind is the damper (shock absorber) used in the cars, like shown here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_absorber
But a pusher based on this concept can show a not negligible level of friction losses.

But there is another way, very simple: a rhomboidal frame (lozenge) with a spring as a diagonal.
The drawing below shows how four such as device can do the requested job, where the springs are in violet.
In the drawing the middle points of the arms are linked, but the same can be done with the weight axles instead.
May be, it's just a coincidence: remember the scissor and the peacock.

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[path_finder]

Hereafter a drawing depicting my latest building (in progress).
The central cog is grounded through the main axis bearing.
The five cogs are synchronized, linked by a chain.
The four axles of the grey cogs are used as reference with the earth for the freewheel of each pendulum.

edited:
The first published drawing was not conform to what I'm building.
The new one is the real mirror of what I'm building.
I apologize for this misinformation.

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[path_finder]

During my experiments I found a more efficient way for increasing the accumulation of the kinetic energy (otherwise said: accumulation of the delay).
The principle is explained in the drawing below:
Instead to lock/unlock the pendulum axle with a vertical fixed reference (like in the previous drawing), now each pendulum transfers its own axle dephasing to the next one. This new concept allows:
- a better synchronization of the successive swings,
- the suppression of the ground reference,
- the acceptance of a greater angle, not limited anymore to the vertical line.
I'm not sure but may be the springs could be not necessary anymore (to be confirmed by the experiments)
The link between the pendulas can be made either by a teethed belt, either by a chain and some cogs (parts ordering in progress)
The disks in rosa are these cogs, and must be still light versus the pendulum's bob. For a better understanding the radius is different on the both side, but in the final building must be equal (for a correct transmission of the previous pendulum's angle).

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