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Coral Castle Florida

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Hi All

A notion came to me on this and other related topics.

Do we have a forum visitor who lives close to this site?

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Re: Coral Castle Florida

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I am within driving distance.
. I can assure the reader that there is something special behind the stork's bills.
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Driving Distance

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A persons direct experience is worth it's weight in gold.
When a person see, measures and captures the vibes for a place.
They are an expert on that moment.

How well they can describe that moment is another matter.
The words they use could be accurate non-ambiguous and have a well defined objective definition.

Or the words/phrases could be subjective and use words that best fit to them too extend their vocabulary.

'A widget can be used to do this thingy.'

Driving distance for me is 50 miles [80.5 kilometers] round trip.
Also there would need to be a good reason.

A person from Australia may have another value for 'Driving Distance'.
I presume it will not be 50 miles.

So the real question is the justification to travel to this location?

But first have you justsomeone or any other member visited the site?

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The Moving Gate

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A 9-ton gate that moves with just a touch of the finger.

This is on the Museum web site https://coralcastle.com/
The website generates the web page using WordPress version 4 were this product is at 6.

So it's not the most dynamic and therefore not update with new research.

The interest is this gate was repaired in the past. Therefore it was lifted up and it's weight is actually known not calculated. Assuming it's solid and the metal bar weight can be calculated out knowing the stones and the central bars dimensions. Then we would have an proximate averaged density.
For the stone present on the site.

There are statements that the lifting equipment used originally was rates to 5 tones.
Assuming the equipment was tested too find it's actual upper limit, at the users risk, then 9 tons could have been lifted. I expect ratings also include a dynamic load extra safety margin.

Well one man slowly lifting a block will not be pressing the dynamic load boundary soon.

The blocks were worked into shape but the quarry was not.
Therefore there should be tool marks in the quarry that are present today.

There is references to electrical devices and an information pamphlet / book.
All counts the information within is odd, outlandish etc.

Well should we not check for odd and outlandish is a commonality with this forum's reason for existing.

Also the loss of the prime mover with regards to the Coral Castle subject and Besslers subject echo in both.

P.S. The hint he mentioned superconductivity in the information pamphlet got me thinking.

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He was reported to say something like 'The English talk about the weather, but do nothing about it'.

I find this is true with so many subjects the one here is lifting rocks by some method of reducing the weight while keeping their mass the same.

Well finding research on the subject is an option. Then there is the task of doing primary research.

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The blocks were worked into shape but the quarry was not.
Therefore there should be tool marks in the quarry that are present today.
The last pics I saw years ago had tool marks in the quarry.
And now to say something that is a very unpopular idea to some: I suspect that he made most of the stones out of coral concrete. I base this on the impressions of leaf springs on the blocks, imbedded materials (like nails and bottles), and puddling of liquid stone on others. Sorry, looks like someone was working with concrete to me... ;-)
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MrTim wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:36 pm ... I base this on the impressions of leaf springs on the blocks, imbedded materials (like nails and bottles), and puddling of liquid stone on others.

Sorry, looks like someone was working with concrete to me... ;-)
Hello MrTim

I have no problem with a person directly seeing embedded materials within the stone objects.
For such observations are, as I said, worth there weight in gold.

As to the magic of the site being possibly reduced is a price for the refining of truth.

It is good to know Father Christmas still exists.

There has been a movement too consider ancient concrete mixes that over time are close to natural concretions.

There is always room for several construction techniques to be employed.
So 'Using the secrets of Egypt'. One could be man made concrete.

After all Roman concrete may have been inspired from other areas outside of Italy.

https://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete-history/

Can you confirm you directly observed the abnormal embedded material.


Or do we need another person to visit the site.

Note.

We have methods too photograph in high definition the tooling marks and embedded material.
Then create photo geometry models and place these on the web.

The question these days were access is not as open. And people have a vested interest to prolong
non-truth to the point of stopping research.

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MikeyNed once posted closeup pics of Coral Castle blocks here a long time ago (the topic/pics/links are either in the really old BW archives, or have been long deleted.) And I might add, the weird rod device "nobody has ever figured out" was most likely used to vibrate air out of the mixture (modern equivalents exist.) But whatever, I expect to be hated... ;-)
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MrTim wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:27 pm ... might add, the weird rod device "nobody has ever figured out" was most likely used to vibrate air out of the mixture (modern equivalents exist.) But whatever, I expect to be hated... ;-)
I personally see no reason why a sensible idea should create a emotional response.

Vibrating any mix will cause liquefaction thus helping the removal of bubbles.

Saying that seeing the coral like porous blocks one would ask the question;
would anyone notice an air pocket?

Mr Tim can you remember seeing any items embedded in the coral blocks in the photographs?

I have put these, non direct observations, here as a collection.

Rumor is other meteoritic iron objects are held in Cairo Egyptian museum.
Meteoritic iron is brittle and like all brittle metal alloys is good for bells and tuning forks. Engravings exist showing tuning forks connected to show the perfect fifth harmonic.

Hard stones shards were mixed with copper. The shards floated [quarts] along the top edge of a case copper saw. Useful for sawing limestone etc.

Iron Pyrite when crusted under water creates a light gold coloured past.
Cutting blocks of limestone with slanted sides to improve earthquake resistance. This past is put between the blocks.
As it oxidises the past becomes acidic and reduces the gap between the blocks. There is small amounts of iron and sulfide compounds between the blocks.

https://www.leedskalnin.com/


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MrTim wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:27 pm MikeyNed once posted closeup pics of Coral Castle blocks here a long time ago (the topic/pics/links are either in the really old BW archives, or have been long deleted.) ...
https://www.leedskalnin.com/CoralCastlePhotos.html
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I've visited Coral Castle about 6 years ago and was impressed. I think most people under estimate what you can accomplish when all you do is focus on one thing every single day. Still the story goes Ed loaded a truck by himself overnight when Coral Castle had to move.

That I don't know how he did...like the Bessler Wheel.
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I have watched a great video that someone posted explaining how everything at the Coral castle was most likely done. I don't have time now to search for it but it should be easy enough to find. It takes all the mystery away.
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JUBAT wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:06 pm That I don't know how he did...like the Bessler Wheel.
There are similarities between these two as original thinkers.

You are correct a slow progress appears magical. When we are distracted with live and look back
to find something has happen we have not noticed.

I believe I did see a photo of ED next to a loaded flat bed truck.
Most trucks of that type are rated for 2 tons. Possible more if ex-army.

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justsomeone wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:44 pm I have watched a great video that someone posted explaining how everything at the Coral castle was most likely done. I don't have time now to search for it but it should be easy enough to find. It takes all the mystery away.
Truth is a two edge sword reality and mystery. When one edge sharpens the other becomes blunt.
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As we swing the sword of 'truth'. As any readers replicated this device?

https://www.leedskalnin.com/Leedskalnin ... older.html

There are aspects to this that should be studied. For example the two coils placed over a large tuning fork core. Then testing different resonance of tuning forks.

The folks could be hit to cause the forks to vibrate.

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