Posted by Rob (208.17.229.201) on February 28, 2003 at 11:12:55:
In Reply to: Bessler statement / center of gravity posted by Jeff on February 27, 2003 at 10:51:24:
Good questions. When someone comes up with a wheel that works we'll know the answers.
: To all:
: The translation of Das Triumphirende Perpetuum Mobile Orffyreanum by Ted of Chicago says: As long as it remains outside the center of gravity, this upper weight incessantly exercises universal motion from which the essential constituent parts of the machine receive power and push. The newest posted translation says: these weights are the essential parts and constitute perpetuum mobile itself; as from them is retreived the unviersal movement which they must exercise so long as they remain out of the center of gravity. The post by John Collins of the most recent translation states: NO, these weights are themselves the PM device, the ‘essential constituent parts’ which must of necessity continue to exercise their motive force (derived from the PM principle) indefinitely – so long as they keep away from the centre of gravity. My questions are - Exactly what center of gravity was Bessler speaking of? Was he talking of the center of gravity of the wheel before the weights were added, or after the weights were added? Was he talking about the exact point of the center of gravity, or was he talking only of perhaps the vertical or the horizontal component of the center of gravity? Was that center of gravity located at the radius point of the axle? Was he talking about one upper weight, or the center of gravity of an entire group of weights?
: Jeff