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Posted by David (199.60.107.1) on March 22, 2003 at 14:37:57:

I almost forgot the fact that the crab was a water creature. Also Besslers other clue
>Saturn, Mars, and Jupiter are ready to join in any battle.

Astrologers think, and use to think that in the story of Jesus the star of Bethleham was actually a conjuction or alignment of these three planets. The personage of Jesus was born into the time of pisces, the twin fish (twinm weights in water?), and Jesus was also known as the fish, hence the fish insignia usaed towards him. Fish-being a creature of the water.

As for some of Mr. Tims critique of a hydralic system, this is actually timly, I was planning on writting more today. There is a way of making a piston system that uses very very little friction thus very little energy loss. Believe me, I've been at this game for six years plus. Never in trying to figure out Bessler, doing my own work. Consider this,

A tube valve system allows one to do almost unimaginable things, things that couldn't be done with an average gear or pully system. You can direct a bent tube anywhere, and have intant power output from the end. You can vary the tube diameters and get different usage of leverage. You can drop a weight, or move a force upon an anvil-bladder system, and get instant air pressure at the other end of the tube AHEM-MR.TIM.

How to create a frictionless piston system.

Imagine placed before you is a flat sheet of plastic. In the center of this plastic place your piston drum, flat side down. Glue the one flatr side to the platic, or pinch the plastic up around the circular wall of the piston. Now the piston is atatched to the plastic. If the piston is 2 inches, make the piston cylinder 2 1/4 or bigger, anything you want, so there is no friction. Take the outer edge of the plastic and glue-or attatch to the outer wall of the cylinder. You now have a piston that is capable of sliding back and forth in the cylinder, with no friction, using a bit of air or water pressure. Its limits being the size or area of the platis itself. There will be a bit of drag it just air is used but if the inner cylinder was filled with water, and the other side was also filled with water so it is pressurized (so there is no pressure difference) there will be next to zero resistence. Nowdays we can use plastic.. Go out and get some plumbers tubing, or some hollow brass tubing from a hobby store ( I have more info on this ) and a tube bender, some plastic and a seam sealer (around 110.00 dollars) In Besslers day he could have used an animals bladder or some cloth that has been water treated. This also brings me to another point. If he did indeed have a cylinder filled with water, the weights would also probably be immersed in water. Maybe the cloth he used around the weights wasn't so much to hide the look of the weight, but to hide the fact it was wet?
Scott as per energy spent in lifting a weight against gravity, there is a way using a swatica design to counter balance the weight being lifted, against one being lowered, the one being lowered actually becomes the driving weight, believe it or not. One design I quickly came up with.

Dav


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