Posted by ovyyus (203.26.14.3) on May 22, 2003 at 21:32:19:
In Reply to: Re: Why Nobody Interest to My Patent? posted by SK on May 22, 2003 at 20:52:33:
Hi SK,
Most people I speak with have bits and pieces of ideas, rather than a full blown wheel design they are confident enough in to want to build and patent.
Sharing ideas and discussing the available historical information on Bessler's wheel will, IMO, lead someone to a solution.
You don't have to give away your pet design to discuss ideas and information. IMO, when someone thinks they have 'the solution' they usually limit their discussion to hints and teasing about their own particular design. That's not much good to me. If I must be teased then I'd rather it was by the master himself, Orffyreus!
If you need technical assistance with your design then my advice is to find some. The sooner you resolve your design, one way or the other, the better for all. Again, I wish every success.
Regards, ovyyus
: You said
: : : I think these forums are great for sharing ideas, concepts and information.
: But I feel nobody want to share his own Idea, only sharing already known fact or idea.
: I think is's because they cannot sure his own design is right.
: Another reason is, they cannot sure their idea could be protected by law.
: In my case I already apply my idea to the patent.
: In my short understanding, I hope I can be protected by the international patent law.
: Please let me know my understanding is right or not.
: Regards SK
:
: : Hi Ovyyous
: : Thank you for your advice about my posting.
: : I am so sure of my design.
: : I want to find a man, who want to know my design and who want to work with by discussing the mechenic troubles.
: : This wheel is so simple but need much of mechenical consideration ( for example what kind of material should be used, how much flexibility or elasticity ).
: : I think it is beyond my ability.
: : This is my hope to find a helpful man.
: : If my Idea is wrong, please let me know.
: : Regards SK
: : : Hi SK,
: : : I believe that you believe you have a design that will work.
: : : I am of the opinion that designs can only be proved with demonstration. It's difficult for me to have too much interest in an unknown theory supported with a yet-to-be-completed model. Hopefully you will change this situation.
: : : The only reason Bessler was taken seriously was because he had a working model. IMO, demonstration is the ultimate shared reality, everything else is just subjective proposition and theory.
: : : So, get your patent, build your model and prove to the World that your design works. Optionally, you could offer your design for the objective : : : Whatever route you decide to take and no matter how many people see your design, the only way to actually prove that it works is still by physical demonstration. IMO, it's that simple. : : : I think these forums are great for sharing ideas, concepts and information. But advertising claims unsupported by demonstration, or even a theory or a useful description, seems a little pointless and distracting. : : : Don't get me wrong, I wish you every success with your wheel attempt! : : : Regards, ovyyus : : :
: : : : May be, all of you do not believe me.
: : : : I want to know how to do next.
: : : : Please give me some advice.
: : : : And I decide to build some bigger one in this time.
: : : : I have 40cm diameter testing wheel.
: : : : But it is very difficult to see the exact movine process.
: : : : So I decide to build 80cm diameter wheel again.
: : : : And I got a hint about the difference between one direction and bi direction wheel.
: : : : In my design It is almost same between one direction and bi-drection. So today I decide to patent the One directional wheel in this week. One direction wheel need no initial-push by my calculation.
: : : : Bessler also said the theory is very simmilar.
: : : : regards SK