Re: Bessler fraud?


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Posted by grim (206.162.192.40) on February 01, 2003 at 05:33:03:

In Reply to: Re: Bessler fraud? posted by john on January 31, 2003 at 15:53:21:

A spring as used in clockwork requires a stationary point or anchor to lever or push against. The axle, rotating with the wheel, precludes this, as a spring with no anchor point at one end or the other cannot develop torque. Sort of like trying to tighten a nut on to a loose bolt.
He explained exactly how he did it- a central flywheel driven by peripheral weights that are kept out of the center of gravity. There's an easy way to prove this. Put four bolts thru a piece of plywood at 90 degree intervals, and hang weights on them. If allowed to sit there, that's just what they'll do, because the centriod formed by the COG's of all the weights has its center at the axle.
But now, push a weight over on the rising side toward the center by just even 1/4", and drive a screw into the wood to hold it there. The wheel takes off. The whole gist of the problem now is how to maintain that offset with all four weights as one will find that as the main wheel rotates the screw in the wood changes sides and the mech is defeated. Anything you use on the pivot point to try
to maintain this offset simply allows the weight (and itself) to fall to the normal hanging position.
Levers, etc. extract too much energy from the main wheel to maintain motion while keeping the weights offset. No, it has to be a property of the weight(s) themselves, or their arrangement, independent of the main wheel, and causing the centroid formed by the COG's of all the weights to be offset from the axle. This is one of the most difficult engineering problems ever encountered here.
I don't believe its a question of whether or not it was genuine, the question is how did he derive a mech that can keep a weight pushed off its normal hanging position and at the same time rotate with the weight for non-interference without using energy from the main wheel to do it. I believe its an open-loop energy system, and works just because he weights "are", for lack of a better term.


grim


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