Posted by John Collins (194.164.38.91) on February 07, 2003 at 08:52:19:
In Reply to: Re: Karls payroll posted by grim on February 07, 2003 at 07:04:15:
: Hi Grim,
My fault that there is no copy of my book - I promise I'm dealing with that.
You're right to question the standing of the witnesses, and of course no one should take my word for it, but also it's worth looking at the recorded descriptions of the various tests, because they show in plain language that some of the achievements credited to Bessler's wheel seem impossible unless an external source of energy is accepted. Further study of these reports rules out any chance of deception and we are left with the conclusion that Bessler did indeed drive his machine using the force of gravity as an energy source.
The next thing to answer is how gravity can be used as a direct source of energy and yet not violate the laws of physics. We are all working towards a solution to Bessler's wheel but it seems to me that when we succeed explanations will be sought as to how this is possible given the current stance taken in physics with regard to gravity driven wheels.
John C.
Hi John
: Unfortunately I boarded this boat too late to get a copy of your book, so I have no reference point as to what has been researched. Therefore when David brought up the point of some sort of "conpiracy", the only course available here was to do a little digging into backgrounds from various sources, since noone seemed to want to answer his allegations.
: And I did state that I would POSSIBLY look more dimly on Wolff's any any other witness's opinion of the device, for the simple reason that any skeptic would say "they wouldn't bite the hand that feeds them". Therefore, the most important witness in my opinion is Gravensande, a man from Holland, no ties to Hesse-Kassel, that reported his findings of observation
: of the externals of the device as "no fraud found" to Isaac Newton himself. With this testimony from an independent investigator, it appears that all avenues for the skeptics are exhausted, even if I DID eliminate all Hesse-Kassel eyewitnesses.
: Speaking of books, what's the status of your new one?
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: Respectfully yours,
: grim