Re: Elias Factor

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Posted by Of dreams and visions (209.74.225.161) on July 04, 2003 at 19:17:38:

In Reply to: Re: Elias Factor posted by ovyyus on July 04, 2003 at 17:03:19:

A dream or a misapplied scripture would give me pause as well....it is good to take pause and think, question is....are you the type who likes to think he's thinking or do you really like to think? As the saying goes: "teach a man to think he's thinking and he will love you, make him really think and he may hate you". Either way....we all have our work ahead of us. May GOD bless your dreams and give you a vision you can really see.

: Last night I had a dream: In it GOD said (in part), "...do not sell me like a cheap used car" and then HE continued, "...do not blame me with all your problems". He then went on to explain to me the original purpose of legs as a personal support structure.

: And in me was HIS truth and HE said unto me in a deep and reverberating voice, "Belief not in the meanderings of thy brother for he is but like a voice lost in the wilderness and without sense or reason and does not speak with MY mind".

: Just a dream, but it sure gives me pause for thought.

: Regards, ovyyus

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: : Just keeping things in perspective and being charitable even to "those" ignorant of truth. As for "crying out for some attention".......I have tried to maintain anonymity to help prevent just such an instinctive animus from overtaking me. You would do well to realize the source of all good things and then perhaps be blessed as well. I believe you mistake my supposed cries for attention as the small measure of GOD'S spirit within you that is crying out to YOU for attention before it becomes too late for you. Show me a man who keeps his science separate from his faith and I will show you the road to hell that is paved with "good intentions", for such a personal condition is akin to the saying: "knowledge without wisdom is like a load of books on the back of an ass". I will give you this though, you actually spoke well when you stated that, "GOD truly does work in mysterious ways".....for even if you do not believe it yet.............you will. Whether or not it is too late to make a difference in the direction of your life is of importance to me. Just as one man casts his pearls before swine, another may distribute his only to those who may recognize their value. Judging by your website, I would say that you are such a person as to be able to recognize a pearl.......if you would but polish it just a bit first, you will see that it shines brightly, indeed!

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: : Attention, you say? Ovvyus, may you be blessed with it, not I.

: : : Hi Facilit8r (or is it Specul8r),

: : : Is that our old friend "Voice in the Wilderness" crying out for some attention again?

: : : What happened to your last ill-fated wheel attempt? So many simple questions, yet not a sensible response from your holy self. God truely does work in mysterious ways.

: : : Regards, ovyyus

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: : : : The 4lb weights that were shown to others by old Johann were actually the smaller ones used to leverage the larger (apprx. 16lb) weights into their productive positions. That Bessler was able to do so within the confines of such a relatively thin annular apparatus was the trick, for to do so the simpler way would certainly have taken up much more space and revealed much! It is necessary to note that weights leveraging one another about a pivot as part of a wheel, will exhibit complex forces, not limited to the fact that much of their combined weight will be asserted at the pivot WHILE THEY ARE IN MOTION. When they have stopped moving, their leveraging force upon the wheel will be asserted at their locations at rest. Old Johann recognized the importance of making sure that the leverage moment of the smaller weights upon the larger ones was of sufficient speed and efficiency to offset the lost energy during these critical moments. Surely, some of you will recognize the ease with which one may use levers protruding from the wheel at right angles to it from near the hub to leverage the larger weights in the wheel at the twelve and six o'clock positions.................one may easily work out a method to prevent th whose laws and love are absolute.

: : : : "There is nothing so unstoppable in all the world as an idea whose time has come"

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Comments:	: A dream or a misapplied scripture would give me pause as well....it is good to take pause and think, question is....are you the type who likes to think he's thinking or do you really like to think? As the saying goes: "teach a man to think he's thinking and he will love you, make him really think and he may hate you". Either way....we all have our work ahead of us. May GOD bless your dreams and give you a vision you can really see. : : : Last night I had a dream: In it GOD said (in part), "...do not sell me like a cheap used car" and then HE continued, "...do not blame me with all your problems". He then went on to explain to me the original purpose of legs as a personal support structure. : : And in me was HIS truth and HE said unto me in a deep and reverberating voice, "Belief not in the meanderings of thy brother for he is but like a voice lost in the wilderness and without sense or reason and does not speak with MY mind". : : Just a dream, but it sure gives me pause for thought. : : Regards, ovyyus : : : : : Just keeping things in perspective and being charitable even to "those" ignorant of truth. As for "crying out for some attention".......I have tried to maintain anonymity to help prevent just such an instinctive animus from overtaking me. You would do well to realize the source of all good things and then perhaps be blessed as well. I believe you mistake my supposed cries for attention as the small measure of GOD'S spirit within you that is crying out to YOU for attention before it becomes too late for you. Show me a man who keeps his science separate from his faith and I will show you the road to hell that is paved with "good intentions", for such a personal condition is akin to the saying: "knowledge without wisdom is like a load of books on the back of an ass". I will give you this though, you actually spoke well when you stated that, "GOD truly does work in mysterious ways".....for even if you do not believe it yet.............you will. Whether or not it is too late to make a difference in the direction of your life is of importance to me. Just as one man casts his pearls before swine, another may distribute his only to those who may recognize their value. Judging by your website, I would say that you are such a person as to be able to recognize a pearl.......if you would but polish it just a bit first, you will see that it shines brightly, indeed! : : : : : Attention, you say? Ovvyus, may you be blessed with it, not I. : : : : : Hi Facilit8r (or is it Specul8r), : : : : Is that our old friend "Voice in the Wilderness" crying out for some attention again? : : : : What happened to your last ill-fated wheel attempt? So many simple questions, yet not a sensible response from your holy self. God truely does work in mysterious ways. : : : : Regards, ovyyus : : : : : : : : : The 4lb weights that were shown to others by old Johann were actually the smaller ones used to leverage the larger (apprx. 16lb) weights into their productive positions. That Bessler was able to do so within the confines of such a relatively thin annular apparatus was the trick, for to do so the simpler way would certainly have taken up much more space and revealed much! It is necessary to note that weights leveraging one another about a pivot as part of a wheel, will exhibit complex forces, not limited to the fact that much of their combined weight will be asserted at the pivot WHILE THEY ARE IN MOTION. When they have stopped moving, their leveraging force upon the wheel will be asserted at their locations at rest. Old Johann recognized the importance of making sure that the leverage moment of the smaller weights upon the larger ones was of sufficient speed and efficiency to offset the lost energy during these critical moments. Surely, some of you will recognize the ease with which one may use levers protruding from the wheel at right angles to it from near the hub to leverage the larger weights in the wheel at the twelve and six o'clock positions.................one may easily work out a method to prevent the weights from sliding back down before their work is done, as well. To the few of you who can see this idea clearly in your mind's eye......realize that it is something beyond you or I or bessler and let it do the work for which it is intended........as a lever to pry open the mind's eye of your neighbors to the fact that man can only dominate man to his injury and that many of his laws are corrupted in the sight of the Great designer of the cosmos. At least one of you already knows in his heart the value of these words and may overcome himself and apply it....."He that would save his life shall lose it, he that would give up his life for My sake, shall preserve it alive". Your creator and mine promised that in the very days in which we live would be shortened lest HIS son arrive to find no flesh alive upon the earth. Perhaps the device shown to old Johann served it's purpose just so afterall. As a catalyst to do it's part in speeding up the timetable of our already frenetically paced world. There are surely more than a few otherwise acceptable souls in the science halls and laboratories in the world, whose time spent worshipping at the feet of their false idols, their professors, could be infinitely more productive worshipping the ONE whose laws and love are absolute. : : : : : "There is nothing so unstoppable in all the world as an idea whose time has come"
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