Posted by Georg Künstler (217.2.168.77) on October 28, 2003 at 06:34:09:
In Reply to: Re: VERY INTERSTING IDEA posted by ovyyus on October 28, 2003 at 03:55:58:
: Hi Michael & Georg,
: Curved boards? Where did you find that reference?
: I think you might be referring to a letter written by Wolff to Leibniz describing Wolff's examination of the Merseburg wheel which states, in part, "...During rotation, one can clearly hear the weights hitting against the wooden boards. I was able to observe these through a slit. They are slightly warped."
: Georg, I don't know if you could really describe the inside of the wheel circumference as "slightly warped", could you?
: Something that constantly amazes me is how we can seem to be able to fit the various clues EXACTLY to suit our current particular needs. In that, we are all alike :)
: What I'd like to know is why was there a 'slit' in the wheel. Surely Bessler would not allow such a defect to go noticed.
: Regards, ovyyus
:
: : : I bought an electric pump used to blow up an air matress recently, and it sucked. So I traded it in for a coleman pump, and it worked MUCH-much better. The interesting thing about this is they both have approx the same voltage, I'm not sure of the amperage, and the designs are very different. The first one looks like a standard motor-generator design, the coleman looks a lot like Tesla's fluid pump design. A design he felt was able to give out five times the amount of power to what it takes to run it (I believe) if it was built properly. It got me thinking. The problem withg centrifugal force and singular items(weights ) is as a weight is pulled to the outer edge it's velocity potentialy increases, so the energy needed to drive it also has to increase. This isn't a problem with a disk using water, because the mass in the disk never changes, even though it is constantly being expelled from the outer edge. In the case of an overbalanced wheel using weights if one was designed so the ascending weight was driven towards the axel, at the same velocity as the descending weight, and if done at a fast enough velocity, it could be thown with enough force to start again at the top of the wheel. The benifit of this from a leverage perspective is as it is being forced to move to the axel the wheel is getting lighter on the ascending side. And I'm wondering if this was the real motivation of schauenberger. I don't believe Implosive energy was the real agenda, but was possible a code or a means to divert attention to the real goal. This set up could cover some of the saying pointed out regarding Bessler.
: : : The weights fell upon curved boards. The ascending weight was made to be closer to the axel than the descending weight. And a few others I can think of. What does everyone think about this?
: : : Regards,
: : : Michael
: : Hi Michael,
: : for me, the curved board, is the big wheel.
: : Please think about it. The weights inside are fallig against the
: : big wheel inside. This inside is curved !!
: : Best regards
: : Georg
Hi Ovyyus,
the wheel was made out of wood. When the inside weights are falling against the sticks,
the sticks are loosen. Also, the sticks are not round, as you can see in the drawing.
if one of the sticks are able to turn during the hit, you will have a 'slit', to
look inside. This 'error' wasn't forseen from Bessler,
and happend during the run. The hits, like a hammer from inside,
tries to expand the big wheel. The result is the same, you get a 'slit', to look inside.
Hope this explanation helps you.
For the words 'slightly warped' i need the original text in german. Maybe there is an
interpretation error during translation to english.
As you write it, the inside weights are disort or twisted.
As I see it, the board was curved.
But nevertheless, both interpretations help to buildt the wheel.
Best regards
Georg