Posted by Christopher (208.143.232.66) on January 22, 2002 at 12:30:43:
In Reply to: Now what? posted by John on December 28, 2001 at 13:01:25:
: Well I think I have figured out the design, so now what? I don't take saying this lightly because it took me 9 years and hundreds of designs to come up with this concept. It is basically tension at odds with tension that doesn't cancel out. Doesn't break any "rules". Not your average/everyday arrangement of weights-a fairly simple concept though. I came up with this about a month ago and just found this link today. My rough guess is that you could wean about a half horsepower of usable energy off of the 12 footer. I haven't put one together though. Looked in all the hardware, etc. stores but can't find quite what I need. Any suggestions? John
John,
I have been tinkering with designs for a long time too and have, on several occasions, come up with one that I just knew would work. Unfortunately, after applying all the proper mathematical calculations, it simply balanced. I can't tell you how many times I've arived at that same stupid 22.5 degrees and wanted to tear up my notebooks.
I also have just recently arrived at a design that, once again, I know will work (did the math this time and got > 22.5 degrees!), but until I build a prototype it doesn't mean anything.
There have been people claiming to have 'the answer' for hundreds of years but 'the proof is in the pudding.'
If you wish to gift this idea to the world then your next step is to post it in detail on this discussion board.
If you would prefer to make an attempt at marketing your idea then I suggest that you:
- Refer to the following web site for initial information.
http://web.mit.edu/invent/www/handbook/chapter07.html
Don't forget to use non-disclosure agreements between you and anyone you trust with your idea.
- Create CAD drawings of a prototype
- Use the CAD measurements to doublecheck your CG, inertial calculations, etc. I've developed Excel spreadsheets for this because I got tired of writing out those long CG formulas :-)
- Locate a local machine shop or plastics mold injection shop and provide them with a set of your CAD drawings so they can build part(s) you need that are otherwise unavailable.
http://www.performanceplastics.com/
(just an example, I don't work for them)
- Build a working prototype
- Go to http://www.randi.org/ and apply to take on his challenge. If you prove to him it's real you'll win a cool million that you can use to seed your new business.
- Once you have a working model and the million you can patent your idea. Normally the patent office won't even accept patent applications that remotely resemble PM machines unless you have a working model
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general (search for 'perpetual motion')
- Collect your Nobel Prize for Science
Just a note: I will be pretty upset if you get yours done before mine so... take you time :-)